tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7910834.post1010465350832021117..comments2023-10-15T08:40:12.715-05:00Comments on Interdisciplinary World: Our Bias Against the Foreign; Our Bias Against Spontaneous OrdersTroy Camplinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16515578686042143845noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7910834.post-44551373846158422011-05-28T12:26:36.380-05:002011-05-28T12:26:36.380-05:00I'm glad you enjoyed my interview. I'm an ...I'm glad you enjoyed my interview. I'm an information junkie and enthusiastic about knowledge. I've also been described as seeing the world as serious, but funny. <br /><br />Depending on your enthusiasm, I have written a lot over the years. Leave comments. Spread the word. :-)Troy Camplinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16515578686042143845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7910834.post-22954547326432884432011-05-28T03:36:31.284-05:002011-05-28T03:36:31.284-05:00I understood it now but I'm reading it as a lo...I understood it now but I'm reading it as a logical puzzle. :)<br />I don't know what is my category but it's not a surprise. <br />There is a lot for me to learn at your blog because I'm a multidisciplinary bluestocking and you really is very good in the interdisciplinary approach.<br />I was reading your interview the other day and started laughing you because described something like "and than I found someone who introduced me to quantum physics and started reading all i could.... when I found a great book about exobiology and got so excited that I started researching..."<br />It was really funny at one point.<br />Congrats for reaching this level of understanding.Anahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05742171327602935061noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7910834.post-674780117731848712011-05-25T16:21:30.736-05:002011-05-25T16:21:30.736-05:00Ana,
Thanks for commenting. I love and welcome co...Ana,<br /><br />Thanks for commenting. I love and welcome comments.<br /><br />The part you point out is not an error. I make a distinction between spontaneous orders and organizations. An organization is hierarchical, while a spontaneous order is a scale-free, autocatalytic, self-organizing process out of which order emerge. They are quite different creatures. Both the left and the right prefer organization over order -- they just prefer them in different areas of life. The left prefer government organization over economic (or charitable) spontaneous orders. The right prefer government organization over religious, social, artistic, or cultural spontaneous orders. These, of course, are loose categories -- consider the fact that far left regimes preferred government organization over all of these orders.<br /><br />There is a difference between one's preferred political organization and preference for spontaneous orders and one's personal moral positions. The more unified they are, the more one can be called a classical liberal. But it's not impossible to be, say, a Catholic who nevertheless supports economic spontaneous orders (as we see with the Acton Institute). <br /><br />All classical liberals are libertarians, but not all libertarians are classical liberals in the fullest sense. But all libertarians support free market economics in the fullest sense of the term. Both are suspicious of government action, no matter how noble it may appear.Troy Camplinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16515578686042143845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7910834.post-42149098723947605662011-05-25T15:00:55.957-05:002011-05-25T15:00:55.957-05:00Hi,
This is the first time I comment at your blog....Hi,<br />This is the first time I comment at your blog.<br />Just noticed this little mistake:<br />"The left prefer individuals over firms, government organization over spontaneous order"...<br />I think you meant "spontaneous over government organization..."<br /><br />I wonder why people leave comments with links instead of writing their own thoughts.<br />I find it hard to be libertarian in these days when we are facing problems that require NOT being beyond good or evil.<br />North African uprisings, a world being ruled by corporation, politicians that don't represent people... you know them all.<br />I have to stand up and say NO! for this or YES for that and the louder I can.<br />Maybe I don't fully understand the word libertarian. We don't use it in Brazil that much.<br />I love your interdisciplinary ideas and, dear Lord, finding a job with such a curriculum is very hard!<br />I'm unemployed.<br />:)Anahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05742171327602935061noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7910834.post-45542881203401831572011-05-23T14:16:42.937-05:002011-05-23T14:16:42.937-05:00John,
I certainly welcome your criticisms, and w...John, <br /><br />I certainly welcome your criticisms, and welcome equally links. But the links should be support for a well-developed argument. What we have now are a few statements and some links. Take your statement about libertarians. I would argue that libertarians are the ones who want to be treated like adults and take on adult responsibilities, and not have the government treat us like children and attempt to take care of us like children. Libertarianism goes back to the writings of Lao Tzu and have been developed along various strands. It is hardly a homogeneous group.Troy Camplinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16515578686042143845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7910834.post-90550305215060860032011-05-21T21:58:07.665-05:002011-05-21T21:58:07.665-05:00This essay describes the origins and consequences ...This essay describes the origins and consequences of the current crisis in Culture and Civilization.<br /><br />www.beezone.com/AdiDa/reality-humanity.html <br /><br />I would suggest that contrary to your stated sympathy for spontaneous order you are very much committed to the "stave in the wheel" world-view that is the fundamental cause of the crisis.<br /><br />Plus this one stark image sums up the devastating consequences of your world-view too - it is featured in The Pentagon of Power by Lewis Mumford.<br /><br />www.dartmouth.edu/~spanmod/mural/panel14.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7910834.post-52385343563858578162011-05-21T21:45:24.455-05:002011-05-21T21:45:24.455-05:00So called libertarians are really just perpetual a...So called libertarians are really just perpetual adolescents who are fundamentally dramatizing the refusal to grow up into adult maturity. <br /><br />Who are thus refusing to assume full responsibility for the moral demand implicit in Reality to consciously live in feeling-relationship to all other sentient beings, both human and non-human.<br /><br />Such an attitude is criticised in these two essays.<br /><br />www.dabase.org/p7unity.htm<br /><br />www.dabase.org/coopdoub.htmAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com